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Pretenders to the throne

Every time a story like this comes out, about how the suddenly free-wheeling Mets are now on equal footing with the Bombers, I have to shake my head in disbelief. Names like Billy Wagner, Carlos Delgado, and Paul Lo Duca have been thrown into the mix of earlier acquisitions like Pedro Martinez and Carlos Beltran. Boston's biggest and best "Idiot" Manny Ramirez may soon join the party.

This collection of hired guns has many a fan and sportswriter comparing these Mets to the crosstown Yanks. To me they miss a very important point. The current Yankees are not led by a gang of free agents. This current team is built around a scaffolding of lifetime Yankees; Derek Jeter being the captain of the ship. As we lose a Bernie Williams, we gain a Robinson Cano.

The lack of movement in this years winter meetings means we're finally getting back to the things that made the current dynasty. I am actually quite relieved we held to our guns and curbing our more Steinbrenner-y freewheeling ways. Same can't be said of the team from Queens. These Mets are built like the Mets of the early 1990's. Remember those years? The Frank Viola, Bobby Bonilla, Eddie Murray, Vince Coleman bleach throwing years that were supposed to set the league on fire? These Mets remind me of those Mets. Big egos, Big money and no big man on campus like Derek Jeter to coalesce them.

With no quiet winners like Hideki Matsui, and no late inning lions like Mariano Rivera I will go out on a limb and predict the Yankees will have a better record than the Mets. I'll even take it a step further and predict the New York's lesser ballclub will wind up second to the Braves. Only father time will prove me right or wrong.

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<<go out on a limb and predict the Yankees will have a better record than the Mets.>>

oh, i don't think that's much of a limb.  last year the Yankees were 53-28 over the last half of the season, and they're essentially returning the same team with the exception of the bullpen, which hopefully will be at least a little improved.  assuming next year they actually show up in April rather than waiting until July, then winning 100+ is certainly within reason.  the Mets only won 83 last year -- which means they'd have to add 17 wins to reach the 100 level.  i don't see that happening.

by lee on Dec 15, 2005 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

No late inning lions?
While I agree with you that I'm not totally sold on the new-look 2006 Mets, I don't agree that they have no "late inning lions." Billy Wagner is one of the most dominant relief pitchers of the last decade. A close look at the numbers reveals that Wagner actually had a better season last year than Rivera.

Rivera:
.87 WHIP
.177 BAA
9.19 K/9
91.5% of saves converted

Wagner:
.84 WHIP
.165 BAA
10.08 K/9
92.6% of saves converted

by screechpowers on Dec 16, 2005 5:35 PM EST reply actions  

Bean
Free Colter Bean!!!!!!

Seriously, this guy has done nothing but dominate at AAA and he hasn't gotten a chance.

His last three years in AAA: 222 IP, 261 K's, 89 BB's, 2.72 ERA.

Meanwhile Torre remains Remains in love with Sturtze and his career 5.18 ERA.

by nycfan @ Pinstripe Alley on Dec 17, 2005 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

Oops
Meant to post that on the bullpen thread

by nycfan @ Pinstripe Alley on Dec 17, 2005 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

come on...
i mean, i knew yankee fans are in denial but come on, no "late inning lions"? no "quiet winners"? you know hes quiet cause he doesn't speak english right?

either way, whats billy wagner? and david wright, yeah hes a real arrogant winner...sounds like yankee fan logic to me, you guys just can't accept that your reign of terror over ny is over

by Rob Castellano on Dec 19, 2005 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

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